blondie
Not every ex-jw would know that; thanks for clear that up. The terminology changes so often (to trip up the apostates)
I disagree. Apostates are more up to date on JW terminology than anyone else.
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Another "good" elder might be getting the axe....
by humblepotato inso our congregation is full of hardliner elders, 3 of them, who are not gentle, kind or loving.. people have either moved away or quit trying because one elder inparticular was going to drive them crazy with all his rules and nit picking and being righteous over much.
(and he is pissed that he hasn't been accepted to the school.
hmmm, i wonder why!).
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The Org is Growing???? Really???????
by The Searcher inwatchtower january 2017 - par.
15 - "we live in exciting times.
the earthly part of jehovah’s organization is growing in many ways, but growth necessitates change.".
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Don't forget about the growing confusion of and growing inability of the ranks to explain the teaching of overlapping generations.
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Caleb and Sophia have some competition
by usualusername1 inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nmyoqiidqo&sns=em
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They sang " Always submit to Church Administration..." 97 times.
Not nearly as often as the Watchtower society repeats it.
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Some real gems from the KH!
by DATA-DOG inwell, i went to the kh.... why?
i had my reasons, but i had a real nice cocktail before hand.
anyway, the talk was "why does god permit suffering?
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"...Cathy [1] says: “As a single sister, I was independent and took care of myself. Marriage was an adjustment for me as I learned to rely on my husband. It has not always been easy, but we have drawn so much closer as a couple by doing things Jehovah’s way.” Her husband, Fred, says: “Making decisions was never easy for me. In marriage, taking two people into consideration adds to the challenge. But by seeking Jehovah’s guidance in prayer and really listening to my wife’s input, it gets easier every day. I feel that we are a real team!”
Apparently Cathy and Fred are a source of good advice on marriage. Unfortunately we are not given their address, phone number or any other contact information. What if we have some more marriage questions we need answered? How will we get a hold of them?
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What would be the Watchtower organizations response to "GB-Fact-checkers"
by Esse quam videri inmuch is being said during the usa election run-up and trump-clinton debates about checking the facts of statements made by each candidate.
this is, of course, serious stuff as the direction of the countries future depends on just who is elected into office of the president of the united states of america.
not president of the local 'glee club' or the 'southside knitting society' , but, the president of the united states of america.
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Much is being said during the USA election run-up and Trump-Clinton debates about checking the facts of statements made by each candidate. This is, of course, serious stuff as the direction of the countries future depends on just who is elected into office of the President of the United States of America. NOT President of the local 'glee club' or the 'Southside Knitting Society' , BUT, the President of the United States of America. Makes perfect sense to all interested parties to have someone checking out each and every statement made by those two running for office and forwarding their findings to the public.
Now, turning our attention to another most important office, that of the Faithful and Discreet Slave, would it not be of interest to every Jehovah's Witnesses, worldwide, to be confident that each and every statement they utter is, in fact, true? A reasonable person [to use the often used statement of the Organization] would want to ensure that each statement was true. Therefore no one should have a valid objection to a person or persons, perhaps a well organized group of persons within the Organization, checking each and every statement of the Governing Body and reporting to the worldwide brotherhood the results they may find. This of course would require that they examine, carefully, all printed literature of the Watchtower Society, all worldly publications made reference to, as well as all records and financial accounts relating to statements made by any of the Governing Body. They could then forward their findings to all interested. This, of course, would be in their best interest as God's Word instructs every follower to make sure of each and every thing you are taught so as not to be mislead. Acts 17:11 'Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.'
My question is, What response would such a person or group receive from the Organization?
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Origin of Life
by cofty inin recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?
as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.
there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.
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Cofty " ...Science is still relatively new and the progress that has been made in the last century is astonishing.,.."
“ We're Destroying the Planet in Ways That Are Even Worse Than Global Warming ”
‘ … Humans are "eating away at our own life support systems" at a rate unseen in the past 10,000 years by degrading land and freshwater systems, emitting greenhouse gases and releasing vast amounts of agricultural chemicals into the environment, new research has found…’http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/01/humans-destorying-planet-earth
‘ Earth has lost half of its wildlife in the past 40 years, says WWF ‘
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/sep/29/earth-lost-50-wildlife-in-40-years-wwf‘ Humans have destroyed 10% of Earth's wilderness in just 25 years ‘
http://www.sciencealert.com/humans-have-destroyed-10-of-earth-s-wilderness-in-just-25-years
‘ Stephen Hawking Warns Humanity Could Destroy Itself In The Next 100 Years ‘http://www.iflscience.com/space/stephen-hawking-warns-humanity-could-destroy-itself-next-100-years/
Astonishing progress!
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Origin of Life
by cofty inin recent years significant progress has been made in solving the question of how life originated on our planet.. how do you think theists will respond when it finally happens?
as a former christian i know my reaction would have been something like "well that just goes to show that it takes intelligent life to make life", but for two reasons that defense doesn't work.. firstly it would prove that life is not an ethereal force that originates with god.
there is no 'ghost in the machine', no elan vital.
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Small blue dot.
Oh yes, and on this small blue dot there is a fella who has the origin of life all figured out.
Cofty.
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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN
by LevelThePlayingField ini still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.
so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.
now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.
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Right on berrygerry.
So's whose the apostate now?
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... for the sake of argument, suppose that we assume... Hunh???
by Esse quam videri injuly 15, 1924 watchtower , page 211.
‘… but for the sake of argument, suppose that we assume the .
church will not finish its work here in 1925 ... ‘.
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July 15, 1924 Watchtower , page 211
‘… But for the sake of argument, suppose that we assume the
Church will not finish its work here in 1925 ... ‘
Sept 2015 JW.org broadcast re: overlapping generations. [10:36]'... just for the sake of argument, suppose that we assume that Br. Franz was the last of the first group of annointed ones ... '
Hunh???
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meeting with elders about WT involvement in UN
by LevelThePlayingField ini still go to the meetings because of my in wife and it came about that the elders knew of my pissed off attitude about the society getting involved in the un.
so the elders said they could help me get over that and wanted to meet with me.
now just to let you know, i have only told my wife and her mom so far about it, that's it.
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" ... He went on and said that the Guardian news paper could have apostates working for them for all we know. I said, Oh, I never thought of that..."
That really is quite a statement. It is a good reason for you to examine further if the Guardian may have apostates working for it. Being as the Guardian is one of the sources of information you rely on to keep abreast with social events you will have to be careful but not necessarily reject it outright. You may want to ask the elder who suggested this to instruct you on how you will be able to determine if apostates are actually working for the paper. Tell him you are eager to examine all your sources of information and you will use his instructions to weed out any sources that are apostate. Perhaps you could ask if you could repeat his statement to other ears. It must have some truth to it or why would he utter the statement? You would want to assure him that he could not be guilty of slander if there is a basis of truth to his statement and not just something that he thought of at the moment.
